Prop 8 通过禁止同性婚姻【悲哀】
10/25/2008 11:19:00 AM (#610541)
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Apple is publicly opposing Proposition 8 and making a donation of $100,000 to the No on 8 campaign. Apple was among the first California companies to offer equal rights and benefits to our employees’ same-sex partners, and we strongly believe that a person’s fundamental rights — including the right to marry — should not be affected by their sexual orientation. Apple views this as a civil rights issue, rather than just a political issue, and is therefore speaking out publicly against Proposition 8.
Ps. Proposition 8 is an initiative measure on the 2008 California General Election ballot titled Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. If passed, the proposition would "change the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California." A new section would be added stating "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
The measure was originally submitted for the ballot by petitioners with the title "California Marriage Protection Act." The title and summary were revised by Attorney General Jerry Brown to more "accurately reflect the measure." The Superior Court of California ruled in favor of these changes, stating, "The title and summary is not false or misleading because it states that Proposition 8 would 'eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry' in California. The California Supreme Court unequivocally held that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry under the California Constitution."
Apple is publicly opposing Proposition 8 and making a donation of $100,000 to the No on 8 campaign. Apple was among the first California companies to offer equal rights and benefits to our employees’ same-sex partners, and we strongly believe that a person’s fundamental rights — including the right to marry — should not be affected by their sexual orientation. Apple views this as a civil rights issue, rather than just a political issue, and is therefore speaking out publicly against Proposition 8.
Ps. Proposition 8 is an initiative measure on the 2008 California General Election ballot titled Eliminates Right of Same-Sex Couples to Marry. If passed, the proposition would "change the California Constitution to eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California." A new section would be added stating "only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California."
The measure was originally submitted for the ballot by petitioners with the title "California Marriage Protection Act." The title and summary were revised by Attorney General Jerry Brown to more "accurately reflect the measure." The Superior Court of California ruled in favor of these changes, stating, "The title and summary is not false or misleading because it states that Proposition 8 would 'eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry' in California. The California Supreme Court unequivocally held that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry under the California Constitution."
I'll translate it later if necessary.
苹果加入了与 Google 一起公开反对加州第八号提案的阵营，该题案取缔同性恋拥有合法结婚的权利，并且捐款 10 万美元支持“No on 8 ” 抗议活动。
苹果和 Google 一项在政治上都保持中立态度，但在此事上却公开表明自己的立场。这既关系到加州的公民权利，也可能关系公司雇员的利益。
苹果在官方网的 Hot News 发表声明：
“苹果公开反对第八号提案，并且捐款 10 万美元支持 No on 8 抗议活动。苹果是加州首批向同性恋雇员提供平等权利和利益的公司之一，我们坚定地信仰人的基本权利 —— 包括婚姻自由的权利 —— 不应受到他(她)们性别倾向的影响。苹果认为这是公民的权利问题，而不只是一个政治问题。因此，我们公开宣布反对第八号提案。 ”
在此之前，Google 的联合创始人及总裁谢尔盖布林(Sergey Brin)在 Google 官方博客 中写道：
“这一提案对我们的许多雇员将是一个冷酷且歧视性的规定，所以 Google 不得不公开反对第八号提案。尽管，我们尊重在这场论辩中的双方所坚信的信仰，但是我们认为这是一个基础的人权平等问题。我们希望加州的投票人能够对第八号提案投反对票 —— 我们不应剥夺任何人的基本权利，不论他们的性别倾向，与他们爱的人结婚。 ”
事实上在加州，基本上所有的主流报纸都反对第八号提案。《洛杉矶时报》称这是剥夺人的基本权利的激烈的行动。西班牙语报纸《La Opinión》称第八号提案是“不必要的倡议”，《圣地亚哥联合论坛报》称第八号提案“触怒了加州人民的公平正
苹果和 Google 一项在政治上都保持中立态度，但在此事上却公开表明自己的立场。这既关系到加州的公民权利，也可能关系公司雇员的利益。
苹果在官方网的 Hot News 发表声明：
“苹果公开反对第八号提案，并且捐款 10 万美元支持 No on 8 抗议活动。苹果是加州首批向同性恋雇员提供平等权利和利益的公司之一，我们坚定地信仰人的基本权利 —— 包括婚姻自由的权利 —— 不应受到他(她)们性别倾向的影响。苹果认为这是公民的权利问题，而不只是一个政治问题。因此，我们公开宣布反对第八号提案。 ”
在此之前，Google 的联合创始人及总裁谢尔盖布林(Sergey Brin)在 Google 官方博客 中写道：
“这一提案对我们的许多雇员将是一个冷酷且歧视性的规定，所以 Google 不得不公开反对第八号提案。尽管，我们尊重在这场论辩中的双方所坚信的信仰，但是我们认为这是一个基础的人权平等问题。我们希望加州的投票人能够对第八号提案投反对票 —— 我们不应剥夺任何人的基本权利，不论他们的性别倾向，与他们爱的人结婚。 ”
事实上在加州，基本上所有的主流报纸都反对第八号提案。《洛杉矶时报》称这是剥夺人的基本权利的激烈的行动。西班牙语报纸《La Opinión》称第八号提案是“不必要的倡议”，《圣地亚哥联合论坛报》称第八号提案“触怒了加州人民的公平正
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我们应该说百分比
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加州不是已经通过了吗。。。怎么现在还在讨论这个问题。。。
( 引用回贴 #11093439 ) 低B熊 :
加州不是已经通过了吗。。。怎么现在还在讨论这个问题。。。
加州不是已经通过了吗。。。怎么现在还在讨论这个问题。。。
加州的大法官否决了同性不准结婚的条令,但是并没有权利修改加州法律.这个法案就是为了否决把禁止同性婚姻加入加州法律的. 本来就不应该有这条法案的.
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加州可望通过第8号提案:禁止同性伴侣结婚 世界日报
8号提案 料获逾半选民力挺
至本报截稿止 所开32%选票中 53%选民支持 47%选民反对
记者李秀兰
旧金山4日报导
备受全球注视的加州第8号提案，至本报截稿时，显示这项主张修改加州宪法将加州婚姻规定为一男一女的提案，将获得大多数加州选民的支持。
至本报截稿时，加州选务处已开了32%的选票，显示第8号提案得到53%选民的支持，47%选民则反对。
加州最高法院于今年5月15日裁定同性恋者婚姻的合法地位，受到反对者的挑选，而提出第8号提案，以推翻这项裁决。
支持第8号提案的传统家庭团体及宗教团体注入大额的经费进行竞选活动，四年前首度让同性恋者在旧金山市政大楼结婚的旧金山市纽森，于选前最后一周密集式地替争取同性恋者婚姻合法性而努力进行竞选活动，但似乎未能成功。
同志婚事成败 牵动湾区人心
湾区城市新闻社
旧金山4日电
周二投票进行同时，湾区居民也正紧张等候加州8号提案的投票结果，该提案将废除同性结婚的权益。
在旧金山，纽森市长2004年刚上任不久，便开始允许同性伴侣结婚，引发争议和法庭诉讼。
市府领导已于最近数周多次召开记者会反对该提案，而支持者则打著「保护婚姻」旗帜刊登广告，并播放一段纽森喊著「同性结婚会合法化，不论你是否愿意」的影片。
周一在市府大楼外，8号提案支持者和反对者都在讨论这项提案，并在该街区四周拉票。
警方说，在中半岛，8号提案支持者和反对者周一下午在圣马刁发生争执，至少有两人受到轻伤。
在全湾区，草坪上的8号竞选标志遭窃，圣荷西发生的数起破坏公物事件都和该提案有关。
旧金山的「一神论教堂」 (First UnitarianUniversalist Society)整晚开放，接受任何想结婚的同性伴侣。执行主任南西·伊凡说，只有数对伴侣前来，但有一名神职人员将整晚留下，以防万一。
伊凡说：「教堂认为所有个人都有同等尊严和公平。我们认为这是一个令人注目的公平议题。」
该提案的支持者主张，选民应确保婚姻限定为一男一女的结合。该竞选团的广告引发了同性结婚对教育的担忧，该主张已遭州教育官员驳斥。
8号提案 料获逾半选民力挺
至本报截稿止 所开32%选票中 53%选民支持 47%选民反对
记者李秀兰
旧金山4日报导
备受全球注视的加州第8号提案，至本报截稿时，显示这项主张修改加州宪法将加州婚姻规定为一男一女的提案，将获得大多数加州选民的支持。
至本报截稿时，加州选务处已开了32%的选票，显示第8号提案得到53%选民的支持，47%选民则反对。
加州最高法院于今年5月15日裁定同性恋者婚姻的合法地位，受到反对者的挑选，而提出第8号提案，以推翻这项裁决。
支持第8号提案的传统家庭团体及宗教团体注入大额的经费进行竞选活动，四年前首度让同性恋者在旧金山市政大楼结婚的旧金山市纽森，于选前最后一周密集式地替争取同性恋者婚姻合法性而努力进行竞选活动，但似乎未能成功。
同志婚事成败 牵动湾区人心
湾区城市新闻社
旧金山4日电
周二投票进行同时，湾区居民也正紧张等候加州8号提案的投票结果，该提案将废除同性结婚的权益。
在旧金山，纽森市长2004年刚上任不久，便开始允许同性伴侣结婚，引发争议和法庭诉讼。
市府领导已于最近数周多次召开记者会反对该提案，而支持者则打著「保护婚姻」旗帜刊登广告，并播放一段纽森喊著「同性结婚会合法化，不论你是否愿意」的影片。
周一在市府大楼外，8号提案支持者和反对者都在讨论这项提案，并在该街区四周拉票。
警方说，在中半岛，8号提案支持者和反对者周一下午在圣马刁发生争执，至少有两人受到轻伤。
在全湾区，草坪上的8号竞选标志遭窃，圣荷西发生的数起破坏公物事件都和该提案有关。
旧金山的「一神论教堂」 (First UnitarianUniversalist Society)整晚开放，接受任何想结婚的同性伴侣。执行主任南西·伊凡说，只有数对伴侣前来，但有一名神职人员将整晚留下，以防万一。
伊凡说：「教堂认为所有个人都有同等尊严和公平。我们认为这是一个令人注目的公平议题。」
该提案的支持者主张，选民应确保婚姻限定为一男一女的结合。该竞选团的广告引发了同性结婚对教育的担忧，该主张已遭州教育官员驳斥。
The famous Bette Davis line “Fasten your seatbelt, it’s going to be a bumpy night” pretty much sums up the rollercoaster of emotions felt by the thousands who gathered in San Francisco’s Castro district in anticipation of results on the 2008 election.
There was elation as Barack Obama was proclaimed the first African American elected to the U.S. presidency, followed later in the night by stomach-churning dread as numbers showed Proposition 8, which would ban same-sex marriage in California, to be winning by a 52% to 48% margin.
Though the liberal San Francisco crowd was overjoyed at the Obama win, there was definitely a pang of regret in the air. Some wondered if the Democrat’s victory came at the cost of marriage equality; as the pundits have noted, Obama brought African-Americans and Hispanics to the polling booth in huge numbers, and these communities have traditionally balked at same-sex marriage. Even the "Yes on 8" people noted that their strong draw among Democrats was thanks in large part to the grassroots efforts in these minority communities. “I’m happy Barack won, but it might have led to the downfall of marriage equality in California,” said San Francisco resident Crit Rowe. “But sometimes you have to lose a finger to save the whole hand.”
And as Castro resident, Michael Weller said, “Everybody expected Arizona and Florida [which both had gay-marriage bans on the ballot] to go down, but this is California. We hoped we’d win this one.”
Brad Dyer, another San Francisco resident was disheartened by the trend so far. “Something is terribly wrong when Californians vote to give chickens [California Prop 2] more rights but take away the rights gays and lesbians already have now.”
But whether there is a “downfall” for same-sex marriage in California is still to be decided. The “No On 8 Campaign,” which has battled to preserve marriage rights for gays and lesbians, released the statement, “We expect that there are more than three million and possibly as many as four million absentee and provisional ballots yet to be counted.”
So supporters of marriage equality (not to mention the thousands of same-sex couples who have married legally in the past months) might have a few more bumpy nights ahead of them as the final votes are tallied.
Did you follow the Prop 8 race in California? Are you shocked by the results? Do you think Obama's success cost "No on Prop 8" votes? Let us know!
There was elation as Barack Obama was proclaimed the first African American elected to the U.S. presidency, followed later in the night by stomach-churning dread as numbers showed Proposition 8, which would ban same-sex marriage in California, to be winning by a 52% to 48% margin.
Though the liberal San Francisco crowd was overjoyed at the Obama win, there was definitely a pang of regret in the air. Some wondered if the Democrat’s victory came at the cost of marriage equality; as the pundits have noted, Obama brought African-Americans and Hispanics to the polling booth in huge numbers, and these communities have traditionally balked at same-sex marriage. Even the "Yes on 8" people noted that their strong draw among Democrats was thanks in large part to the grassroots efforts in these minority communities. “I’m happy Barack won, but it might have led to the downfall of marriage equality in California,” said San Francisco resident Crit Rowe. “But sometimes you have to lose a finger to save the whole hand.”
And as Castro resident, Michael Weller said, “Everybody expected Arizona and Florida [which both had gay-marriage bans on the ballot] to go down, but this is California. We hoped we’d win this one.”
Brad Dyer, another San Francisco resident was disheartened by the trend so far. “Something is terribly wrong when Californians vote to give chickens [California Prop 2] more rights but take away the rights gays and lesbians already have now.”
But whether there is a “downfall” for same-sex marriage in California is still to be decided. The “No On 8 Campaign,” which has battled to preserve marriage rights for gays and lesbians, released the statement, “We expect that there are more than three million and possibly as many as four million absentee and provisional ballots yet to be counted.”
So supporters of marriage equality (not to mention the thousands of same-sex couples who have married legally in the past months) might have a few more bumpy nights ahead of them as the final votes are tallied.
Did you follow the Prop 8 race in California? Are you shocked by the results? Do you think Obama's success cost "No on Prop 8" votes? Let us know!
The current official count on Proposition 8, California’s constitutional ban on same-sex marriage, is 5,376,424 in favor and 4,870,010 opposed. With a separation of just over 500,000, the No On 8 organization is stressing patience as some 3 million provisional and absentee votes are counted.
As No On 8 further explained, “given that fundamental rights are at stake, we must wait to hear from the Secretary of State tomorrow how many votes are yet to be counted as well as where they are from.”
In the meantime, gays, lesbians and all anxious and frustrated Californians tried to find ways to deal with the uncertainty. Across the state, from Bakersfield to Sacramento, from Santa Rosa to San Diego, community gatherings were held tonight.
As No On 8 further explained, “given that fundamental rights are at stake, we must wait to hear from the Secretary of State tomorrow how many votes are yet to be counted as well as where they are from.”
In the meantime, gays, lesbians and all anxious and frustrated Californians tried to find ways to deal with the uncertainty. Across the state, from Bakersfield to Sacramento, from Santa Rosa to San Diego, community gatherings were held tonight.
( 引用回贴 #11133651 ) 低B熊 :
加州可望通过第8号提案:禁止同性伴侣结婚 世界日报
8号提案 料获逾半选民力挺
至本报截稿止 所开32%选票中 53%选民支持 47%选民反对
记者李秀兰
旧金山4日报导
备受全球注视的加州第8号提案，至本报截稿时，显示这项主张修改加州宪法将加州婚姻规定为一男一女的提案，将获得大多数加州选民的支持。
至本报截稿时，加州选务处已开了32%的选票，显示第8号提案得到53%选民的支持，47%选民则反对。
加州最高法院于今年5月15日裁定同性恋者婚姻的合法地位，受到反对者的挑选，而提出第8号提案，以推翻这项裁决。
支持第8号提案的传统家庭团体及宗教团体注入大额的经费进行竞选活动，四年前首度让同性恋者在旧金山市政大楼结婚的旧金山市纽森，于选前最后一周密集式地替争取同性恋者婚姻合法性而努力进行竞选活动，但似乎未能成功。
同志婚事成败 牵动湾区人心
湾区城市新闻社
旧金山4日电
周二投票进行同时，湾区居民也正紧张等候加州8号提案的投票结果，该提案将废除同性结婚的权益。
在旧金山，纽森市长2004年刚上任不久，便开始允许同性伴侣结婚，引发争议和法庭诉讼。
市府领导已于最近数周多次召开记者会反对该提案，而支持者则打著「保护婚姻」旗帜刊登广告，并播放一段纽森喊著「同性结婚会合法化，不论你是否愿意」的影片。
周一在市府大楼外，8号提案支持者和反对者都在讨论这项提案，并在该街区四周拉票。
警方说，在中半岛，8号提案支持者和反对者周一下午在圣马刁发生争执，至少有两人受到轻伤。
在全湾区，草坪上的8号竞选标志遭窃，圣荷西发生的数起破坏公物事件都和该提案有关。
旧金山的「一神论教堂」 (First UnitarianUniversalist Society)整晚开放，接受任何想结婚的同性伴侣。执行主任南西·伊凡说，只有数对伴侣前来，但有一名神职人员将整晚留下，以防万一。
伊凡说：「教堂认为所有个人都有同等尊严和公平。我们认为这是一个令人注目的公平议题。」
该提案的支持者主张，选民应确保婚姻限定为一男一女的结合。该竞选团的广告引发了同性结婚对教育的担忧，该主张已遭州教育官员驳斥。
加州可望通过第8号提案:禁止同性伴侣结婚 世界日报
8号提案 料获逾半选民力挺
至本报截稿止 所开32%选票中 53%选民支持 47%选民反对
记者李秀兰
旧金山4日报导
备受全球注视的加州第8号提案，至本报截稿时，显示这项主张修改加州宪法将加州婚姻规定为一男一女的提案，将获得大多数加州选民的支持。
至本报截稿时，加州选务处已开了32%的选票，显示第8号提案得到53%选民的支持，47%选民则反对。
加州最高法院于今年5月15日裁定同性恋者婚姻的合法地位，受到反对者的挑选，而提出第8号提案，以推翻这项裁决。
支持第8号提案的传统家庭团体及宗教团体注入大额的经费进行竞选活动，四年前首度让同性恋者在旧金山市政大楼结婚的旧金山市纽森，于选前最后一周密集式地替争取同性恋者婚姻合法性而努力进行竞选活动，但似乎未能成功。
同志婚事成败 牵动湾区人心
湾区城市新闻社
旧金山4日电
周二投票进行同时，湾区居民也正紧张等候加州8号提案的投票结果，该提案将废除同性结婚的权益。
在旧金山，纽森市长2004年刚上任不久，便开始允许同性伴侣结婚，引发争议和法庭诉讼。
市府领导已于最近数周多次召开记者会反对该提案，而支持者则打著「保护婚姻」旗帜刊登广告，并播放一段纽森喊著「同性结婚会合法化，不论你是否愿意」的影片。
周一在市府大楼外，8号提案支持者和反对者都在讨论这项提案，并在该街区四周拉票。
警方说，在中半岛，8号提案支持者和反对者周一下午在圣马刁发生争执，至少有两人受到轻伤。
在全湾区，草坪上的8号竞选标志遭窃，圣荷西发生的数起破坏公物事件都和该提案有关。
旧金山的「一神论教堂」 (First UnitarianUniversalist Society)整晚开放，接受任何想结婚的同性伴侣。执行主任南西·伊凡说，只有数对伴侣前来，但有一名神职人员将整晚留下，以防万一。
伊凡说：「教堂认为所有个人都有同等尊严和公平。我们认为这是一个令人注目的公平议题。」
该提案的支持者主张，选民应确保婚姻限定为一男一女的结合。该竞选团的广告引发了同性结婚对教育的担忧，该主张已遭州教育官员驳斥。
大家记着这个《世界日报》。。。从行文来看他们应该是homophobes恐同的。。。
It's over!
很难相信，这是一个前两天才喊"change, we need"的国家。。。这简直就是历史的倒退。。。
暂时的
可惜已经通过了。
( 引用回贴 #11138979 ) 低B熊 :
大家记着这个《世界日报》。。。从行文来看他们应该是homophobes恐同的。。。
大家记着这个《世界日报》。。。从行文来看他们应该是homophobes恐同的。。。
《世界日报》一直以来都是homophobes!
只找烟头 该角色已不存在
无语
已经通过了吗？
支持
支持
VCY199 该角色已不存在
呼~套用一句中学政治课本的话：前途是光明的，道路是曲折的。。。
( 引用回贴 #11171011 ) VCY199 :
呼~套用一句中学政治课本的话：前途是光明的，道路是曲折的。。。
呼~套用一句中学政治课本的话：前途是光明的，道路是曲折的。。。
看来加拿大应该比美国更适合做新自由主义的代表。。。
好像还有机会驳回，不记得Arnold怎么说了。
无所谓
简单翻译下：
加州最高法院就第8号提案聆听双方辩论。但最高院不会就目前的聆讯而对已经通过的第8号提案发出临时冻结。。。
Prop 8 & the California Supreme Court: Arguments Will be Heard
The California Supreme Court today has announced that it will hear oral arguments regarding the constitutionality of the recently passed voter initiative reversing the right of same-sex marriage in the state.
The Court has also denied a request to ban the passage of the initiative (a stay) until it hears these arguments and reaches a final decision on the initiative.
From the L.A. Times:
"The California Supreme Court today denied requests to stay the enforcement or implementation of Proposition 8, and at the same time agreed to decide several issues arising out of the passage of Proposition 8. The court’s order, issued in the first three cases that had been filed directly in the state’s highest court challenging the validity of Proposition 8, directed the parties to brief and argue three issues: (1) Is Proposition 8 invalid because it constitutes a revision of, rather than an amendment to, the California Constitution? (2) Does Proposition 8 violate the separation-of-powers doctrine under the California Constitution? (3) If Proposition 8 is not unconstitutional, what is its effect, if any, on the marriages of same-sex couples performed before the adoption of Proposition 8?"
This will take a little while longer. Briefs have to be written, oral arguments have to be made, and the justices have to reach a decision. Stay tuned…
加州最高法院就第8号提案聆听双方辩论。但最高院不会就目前的聆讯而对已经通过的第8号提案发出临时冻结。。。
Prop 8 & the California Supreme Court: Arguments Will be Heard
The California Supreme Court today has announced that it will hear oral arguments regarding the constitutionality of the recently passed voter initiative reversing the right of same-sex marriage in the state.
The Court has also denied a request to ban the passage of the initiative (a stay) until it hears these arguments and reaches a final decision on the initiative.
From the L.A. Times:
"The California Supreme Court today denied requests to stay the enforcement or implementation of Proposition 8, and at the same time agreed to decide several issues arising out of the passage of Proposition 8. The court’s order, issued in the first three cases that had been filed directly in the state’s highest court challenging the validity of Proposition 8, directed the parties to brief and argue three issues: (1) Is Proposition 8 invalid because it constitutes a revision of, rather than an amendment to, the California Constitution? (2) Does Proposition 8 violate the separation-of-powers doctrine under the California Constitution? (3) If Proposition 8 is not unconstitutional, what is its effect, if any, on the marriages of same-sex couples performed before the adoption of Proposition 8?"
This will take a little while longer. Briefs have to be written, oral arguments have to be made, and the justices have to reach a decision. Stay tuned…
支持~~~~
( 引用回贴 #11071296 ) sundongdong :
写得实在是太好了
写得实在是太好了
支持~
居然通过了？真让人叹气
好复杂
OMG
多谢介绍哦，辛苦了……
好
支持哦
搬到其它州不就行了吗